Comments on: Senators Baucus and Conrad concede that Wilson was right, Obama was wrong!

By: PJ

PJ — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:47:25 +0000

Ron:

Which part is the lie?
President Obama said:
“There are also those who claim that our reform efforts would insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false. The reforms — the reforms I’m proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally.”

and Mr. Wilson said: “You Lie!”.

By: admin

admin — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:32:49 +0000

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By: PJ

PJ — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 07:31:55 +0000

Chet:
Nice revisions to this post. Much better.

By: Rob Baker

Rob Baker — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 23:46:43 +0000

The truth: Obama lied. Wilson uttered the only rational response. Decorum is a joke.

By: PJ

PJ — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 22:28:14 +0000

Hmm – lets go to the tape:
This post is dishonest in the way it “restates” what the key players “said”. Here is my take:
in his speech President Obama said:
“There are also those who claim that our reform efforts would insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false. The reforms — the reforms I’m proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally.”
and Mr. Wilson said: “You Lie!”.
Clearly, President Obama was referring to “the reforms [he is] proposing”. You can tell this is true from the fact that he says “the reforms I’m proposing”.
President Obama can point to a provision in the House bill that has actually passed its committee that unequivocally states that coverage will NOT extend to immigrants who are here illegally. Wilson can point to nothing that contradicts the President’s assertion that he (the President) proposes that coverage shall not apply to illegal immigrants. AMAZINGLY! the Democratic leadership in the Senate Finance Committee is still able to rise above Wilson’s public tantrum, and include language in their as yet unfinished bill that would not only exclude illegal immigrants from coverage – but will also add citizenship status checks to the bill to ENSURE that immigrants that are here illegally cannot slip through the cracks.

When you try to recast what Mr. Wilson said, by drawing statements from before or after the speech and then just asserting that Senator Baucus’ behavior proves “the President, once again, was wrong” is – well – silly. When you want to determine who is right or wrong, it is better to just consider what each of them actually said.

By: Anotherhoff

Anotherhoff — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:14:10 +0000

BS…Baucus’ bill hasn’t even been written yet so of course there isn’t a provision in it yet. Section 246 of the House version says no illegals will bev eligible and so, technically, Congressman Wilson is wrong. Nice attempt at spin though